Rogue Ashvael's 4.3 Write-up

Don't blame ins!

You might need all of that hour too

I'd be stealthing through no problem and all of a sudden a mob spawns on me and knocks me out of stealth. This was when I was doing it with like 2 others so have fun when there's like 50 rogues trying to do it later Deadheadd.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657426841

He can cheat if he's bad.

Browsing forums listening to tales of cluster drops. Few notable rogues received between 4 and 9 gems per cluster. As well as almost all reported 15 clusters on a 8/8 clear. Sounds like possibly one of the 25 man bosses is bugged and only dropping 1 cluster, do you remember which boss it was DH? I think most are saying Warmaster Blackhorn.

He got two on every boss but deathwing? I think.
Also just a heads up to you guys if you didn't already know. 4pc should be broken for the new two piece ASAP even at lfr level.

I thought if you were gonna break 4 391 for 2 391 2 384 it was heavily dependent on what you were replacing, where as it was an upgrade no matter what if it was 1 384 + 1 397 or 2 piece 397

The ep values for the two piece are like 770ish and our t12 4pc is around 400-450.

Ya but you'er not figuring in the possible itemization downgrade on top of the secondary and agility loss. Pretty sure dropping 4 piece 391 for 2 piece 384 is fairly dependent on which 2 pieces of tier you'd be replacing.

You'd be gaining agility with everything minus the helm and gloves, and dependant on what spec you're playing those pieces have better rating than the current ones. So its not really that much of a loss.

Also another grain of salt time that might change the BiS listing.
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t126333-4_3_changes_discussion/p12/#post2054631

Ya it'd have to be the pieces where you gain agi. And interesting about the second foot note on that quoted post, Wonder how they're planning to implement it

Shadowcraft is updated finally. Nokaled beats stage one daggers at even the raid finder level. :/ stupid overpowered proc weapons.

For combat the starchaser compass heroic is your bis trinket IE not vial of shadows.

Here's something hilarious.
BIS Subtlety stat weights.

Crit capping is fun

So pretty much we're energy cap as combat to the point the killing spree is going to be useless (sub 1% of total damage due to using daggers) but haste is still king, and subtlety crit caps so freaking hard you actually end up gemming pure haste and hit.

What the fuck @ agi being lower than hit/haste lol

That's with the stage two daggers. So you're at like crit cap extreme where every hit is a crit.

Rakez and a few other rogues have noted this and basically if you want to use both stage one daggers don't be combat. If you are combat you're better off with a 391 MH. I personally am going to test this in a lfr in a few to see how it works out.

E: Just unbuffed I was doing around 1k higher with the gatecrasher over fear. :/

thats way to small of a sample size to work with

I know that. Buffed in a raid it wasn't as big of a difference just a few hundred in favor of gatecrasher though. soooo /shrug

Pure single target, possibly gatecrasher would indeed be a bit ahead, but the minute any sort of cleave enters the picture gatcrashers advantages go out the window, and basically that's only slightly more poison damage and larger KS's.

DW MH would definitely be a solid winner until stage 2 though.