I notice that many of your tanks (Bouba will be the foremost example in the following post) have 5/5 Demo Shout. Can you explain to me why? According to: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102782410&sid=1 As well as www.elitistjerks.com there is no benefit from more than 2/5 Demo Shout, yet your tanks get it? Are you using Curse of Recklessness? Does Illidan have some unusual AP boost? How about this... Bouba specs 3/3 Heroic Strike, and he skips 3/3 Focused Rage? As his current spec he passed up 3 rage reduction to ALL offensive skills (INCLUDING HEROIC STRIKE) yet he gets 3 rage reduction to heroic strike? Is he even looking at his talents when he picks them? Please also note as evident by his talent choices (11/13/07) he did not need Imp Heroic Strike to advance in a tree as he did not pass the first level in Arms. Also, what kind of tank doesn't get 5/5 Deflection, or maxed Shield Mastery? According to: http://www.wowwiki.com/Shield_Slam Shield Mastery ALSO increases the threat of SLAM, in addition to mitigating damage. Maybe you guys are too far into the game to get the good talents? I guess nerfing yourself to suck must make your farm status content more fun? And if these guys are off tanks, for the love of god, why do they not have Imp. Thunder Clap if you guys are efficient? It removes it from the cycle of the MT. Given some of your tanks have acceptable builds, some people like Bouba have builds that look like a child started clicking the pretty icons on the screen when his father went away to attend something. Most of your tanks have peculiar selections of talents. Perhaps I am ignorant but can you enlighten me on your fairly drastic and terrible decisions in your prot tree?